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pct
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  11:26:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit pct's Homepage  Reply with Quote


As one of the pre-reviewers put it: "The shock of seeing that this looked absolutely nothing like anything from Windows Mobile of yesteryear — which, by all means, is a good thing. The conversation that went down at Microsoft, as I imagine it: “So, hey. Windows Mobile 6? It looks terrible. Lets get rid of it.” “Okay. Which parts?” “All of it. Get rid of absolutely all of it. I want no similarities.” “But.. then… how..” “Fine. They can both use letters and numbers and other aspects of language. Everything else? Gone!” End scene." -> Source: Review 1

As two previews of Windows Phone 7 - the product that will be replacing WIndows Mobile 6.5 in a few month - have appeared today, all-in-all it makes me believe that Microsoft seems to have already lost the race against iOS and Android.

Review 1: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/19/pre-review-preview-windows-phone-7-2/
Review 2: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/

What do you guys think: Will Microsoft will be able to face the most tremendous competition in the smart phone market in just a few months' time?

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Edited by - pct on 07/19/2010 11:30:36 AM

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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  3:20:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit joe_elway's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I reckon it's doomed. The axing of all the execs involved tells me what Ballmer is expecting sales-wise. Heck, the "big" launch was in a box-sized room, at 6am PST (or similar). Does that scream "we got something really big here!" to anyone?

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Edited by - joe_elway on 07/19/2010 3:21:41 PM
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Nothing about it makes me want to own one. The iPhone is way slick.. More Polished than my new droid X, but the Droid x is on verizon and that makes the difference for me.
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After what they did with the Kin why would anyone take a chance..? I saw commercials for that thing right up to the day they pulled them off the shelves. The HTC and Droid are so hot right now I wouldn't want to waste a dime going up against them unless you had something really ground breaking.

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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  11:50:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Curt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Samsung phone is the best PDA I've had.

I looked at the other offerings.

Not impressed.

IF....... You don't buy into a technology it will not go anywhere.

IMHO most phones appeal to non techs
Look at the screen in the photo.

Watching a movie or video is ok, but I really don't care.

For me a PDA needs some things like multiple email accounts and easy jump from one system to another. Good voice mail. Good data generation. Enough memory to run business applications.
A connection that does not drop all the time or when you hold it a certain way. Good radio. Good sound. I could care less about cut and paste on a PDA. I've been using them for years now and I really have never done much writing and text transfer on a PDA.

Good battery life is important too. I also want a interface to a full screen monitor right on the phone.
So much is made about marginal use applets that it's just not interesting.

I hope Microsoft will stay in the Game.

What they did not count on back in 2002 when I started going to Microsoft seminars on the PDA issues was the way the industry would go after the non tech users. At the time, they were not even considered.

All they wanted was email and text.

Well, things have changed.
I think more people on earth know how to use a cell phone now than know how to read.



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DennisMCSE
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You can't really compare the Kin to the Windows Phone 7. Completely different products to the point that I don't even know if you could make phone calls on the Kin, because it centered on "Social Media" communications, like SMS, twitter, Facebook, and all that. Don't even know why they came out with that other than they wanted something in the market until WP7 came out.

Apparently Microsoft is giving all their employees a free WP7 phone when it comes out, I guess to try and get the buzz out there and have the phone be seen and used by people.

I think it will do OK, but I don't think it will be an iPhone or Android killer. All three will have their users, just as the Blackberry will still have their users that will continue to use the Blackberry platform. With WP7's integration with SharePoint 2010 and Office 2010, it will make people look at it if it integrates with their business environment. At work we are only allowed to use Blackberry's, no iPhones or Android phones connect to the corporate network. But we are moving more toward SharePoint 2010, so WP7 is being talked about, whereas iPhone and Android are not.

Even based on Curt's comment above, he's looking for a PDA, not a Smartphone, for his needs so there will still be a market for non-Smartphone phones as well.


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Curt
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Posted - 07/29/2010 :  2:59:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Curt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry Dennis put I often interchange smart phone and PDA together.

I just think of hand helds like the device that Arthur C. Clarke wrote about in his book "Imperial Earth".


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